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The Ningin Round Table is a feature in which we pose an Asian entertainment news-related question to Ningin writers and they give us their colorful opinions and thoughts on the matter. In light of the recent Block B scandal, we asked our writers, “What sort of scandal would it take for you to not be a fan of your favorite KPOP group?” Here’s what some of them had to say:
Anabel Martinez: I think it would be quite tough to change how I would feel about my favorite kpop group (SHINee), so they would have to be involved in something quite drastic for me to lose all respect for them and no longer be a fan of the group. I think if it was found out that my favorite group was involved with or promoting a company that is later found out to have ties to a shady underground organization selling organs on the black market would be the sort of scandal that would break my heart and no longer be a fan and supporter.
Megan Schulz: I am generally fairly forgiving to the bad qualities that human nature is sometimes weak to; however, the drive towards physical and mental violence without remorse is not one of them. As fans, we know that idol groups are put under a lot of stress from their company, the desire to please fans, and from the attention of the fans themselves, which can lead to frustration—it’s natural—but when frustration leads towards the physical or mental harm of others, I lose a lot respect for those idols. There was recently an audio tape of the JYJ members abusing a fan—I didn’t believe it because, let’s face it, those lines sounded too staged—but thinking of the possibility that someone we idolize so much could turn around and slap all that dedication in the face (literally) was stunning to me. I know some of the more hardcore fans are overbearing (and sometimes creepy) in their attempts to show how much they love an idol group, yet I didn’t want to believe something like violence, even towards those fans, could be possible.
Vanda Nur Ilmi: As much as I like my favorite group, I think there should be a limit where I’d have to stop being a fan when a big scandal happened, such as if they were caught swearing with racist comments, moreover if they were being drunk. Kpop stars have fans all over the world who are open to Korean culture, so of course international fans also expect their stars to respect other countries and cultures as well. If Kpop stars were racist, I think they should not deserve the worldwide popularity, even if it was my own favorite group. Unfortunately there have been some cases of racist ‘humor’ in Korean entertainment, so I hope they would stop doing it from now on. If they want to be respected by the world, they should start respecting the world.
Regina Walker: This was a very difficult question for me to answer because I would never want to think of no longer being a fan of my favorite KPOP group which happens to be MBLAQ. I did a lot of thinking for this and came to a conclusion. Though there may be minor things they could do that could possibly upset me a little, it wouldn’t really make me stop being their fan. However, if they were ever involved in a sex tape scandal I think I would lose complete faith in them and wouldn’t be able to look at them in the same way. This isn’t saying they can’t date or anything like that, but when I think of sex tapes, I basically think of porn, so I wouldn’t be able to handle how careless they could be with their personal love life like that. It would probably kill me on the inside since I am such a devout fan of theirs since they are the very first KPOP group I have ever listened to which made me fall in love with it to begin with. I respect MBLAQ so much for all of their hard work and how they have never been involved in any scandals like that. This would really make me lose respect for them.
Tamari Kharebava: The news has to be really shocking for me to abandon fandom of my favorite KPOP groups like SHINee, Beast, Big Bang and etc. It seems almost impossible for me to not like them no matter what happens. I couldn’t care less about the life choices they make; the ’scandal’ could quite possibly be about smoking, doing drugs or having a terrible character for all I care. Hearing any of those of course would be disappointing, but I care more about their music. After all those possible poor lifestyle choices, all it comes down to for me is them creating the music I love. I would stop being a fan of a KPOP group if the scandal reads something along the lines of “G-Dragon can’t actually sing; he has been using auto tune“. Now THAT would destroy my love for the group I cared so much for. Can you imagine finding out that SNSD, possibly your favorite group, has been lip singing during the concerts? I hope I never hear news that mention even a hint of that idea. I don’t really consider personal choices they make any of my business, but when I buy music that is not sung by them, I think I can have a say that it’s wrong. I mean who would want to keep being a fan if what the group offers isn’t real at all.
And now you have the floor: What sort of scandal would it take for you to not be a fan of your favorite KPOP group?
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03/19/12 5:33 pm
Wow… ok um to Regina Walker: I heard on AllKPop that MBlaq was on a variety show where the host asked them who watched the most porn and Lee Joon ratted out G.O. for having a separate laptop just for porn… just thought you might be interested in that so yeah… ._. Not exactly what you were thinking of but… yeah
oh I’m pretty sure we all know about GO’s pigeon folder on his laptop. lol. that’s not the same thing as a sex scandal. GO isn’t involved in the porn so it’s not my business if he watches it/looks at it, regardless that everyone pretty much knows he does.
03/18/12 11:42 pm
For someone who has a high tolerance (is this the right word?) for scandals, the scandal that would make me lose my love for my biases has to be pretty big and the evidence should be strong. I know that they are not perfect and they are going to make mistakes (too bad for them their mistakes are seen by everyone and most of the time are blown out of proportion). Big scandals (for me: murder, abortion?, abuse…
03/18/12 2:36 pm
I don’t know! may be insulting my country or making fan of my religion! don’t really know this question is kinda hard!
03/18/12 2:34 pm
This is a really hard question but for me my fav group is MBLAQ. The thing that would stop me being there fan or any other groups fan is if they act racist or discriminat against people. That would just break my heart because I hate anything that has to do with those 2 things. I still think its crazy when people was trying to make it seem like Mir was racist when the English sub of the first episode of “hello baby” came out. When he said “ ah yo my daddy man.” I laughed so hard when he said that XD but other people over reacted to it. Kinda the same thing with Brian joo when he acts like a ghetto black girl. I fond it funny has h-e double hockey sticks. So i hope I never see anything when it comes to those 2 things I hate.
03/18/12 1:49 pm
Wow… ok um to Regina Walker: I heard on AllKPop that MBlaq was on a variety show where the host asked them who watched the most porn and Lee Joon ratted out G.O. for having a separate laptop just for porn… just thought you might be interested in that so yeah… ._. Not exactly what you were thinking of but… yeah
Tamari’s just like blew my mind, especially since GD was involved. But yeah, I wouldn’t be able to take that either. BIGBANG has been in many scandals recently and I haven’t lost my respect for them yet, because you have to think about their world and what they may be going through. Their paradigm may not be the same as yours, so I can’t really say anything that would make lose my respect for them. :/
03/18/12 9:50 am
hmmm… what would super junior have to do in order to make me stop being a fan? they’d have to do something pretty bad. like say horrible things (racist, discriminatory, insulting words) or bring physical harm to others. little mistakes can be forgiven like kangin’s mistakes. they’re people too, they can screw up at times and korea is known for its drinking and smoking issues so i can only understand some things. but there are certain actions that don’t have an excuse no matter what culture you’re a part of. but i fully trust suju to be the best people they can be and not let down their many fans ^^
03/18/12 9:26 am
This is a really hardd question ><
My favourite KPOP group is SHINee and I srsly cant imagine them doing anything cos they’re so innocent ^^ But Idk if they did do something I would still be a fan if they were truly truly sorry for what they had done because everyone makes mistakes but Idk what they would do to make me stop being their fan ><
03/18/12 8:41 am
I actually seriously think that there is NOTHING SHINee can do to make me stop loving them.... <3
03/18/12 8:23 am
i actually also do not know what type of scandal would make me not love my fave groups anymore. but of all the things shared above, probably the sex tape scandal would be the closest. but i’m an infinite fan and they’re probably too young for a sex tape scandal and i’m also a 2PM fan and being that i don’t think any scandal against my boys would make not like them anymore. so for now, i don’t have a concrete answer for this.
03/18/12 7:49 am
i don’t know!!
For me I think the worst things would be violence, and even more so if it was sexual violence. I cannot respect a person who would act that way. Also, disrespect such as racism, sexism, homophobia etc. would also hurt me and make me lose respect for the offending idol/actor/celebrity etc.
03/18/12 3:19 am
By the way I’m a Shawol
It surely wasn’t evident from your username.
Nothing would break my love. I know it sounds obsessive and it probably is but, they have become such a huge part of me that I wouldnt be able to stop loving them. If I care that they did the scandal or not then that means i still care for them. I feel I should support them through anything because they are human being and are not perfect, they can even be stupid or frustrated sometimes as humans are wont to do, and they have enough people criticizing them. Many say Kpop is a family, and I agree, so if they are my family I should stand by them no matter wat, because when all is said and done, family is all you have left. I’m not saying that i wouldn’t be angry with them, but they would still receive my love and support once They were forgiven in my mind.
Just curious, would you forgive your family members if they had murdered someone? What if they had murdered you? Would you still forgive them?
if they were involved in serious crimes eg murder rape, but minor accidents i wouldn’t care less. idols are people too they make mistakes. i cannot imagine myself hating SHINee really…
03/18/12 1:50 am
I think it’d take a whole lot. Humans are flawed, and they make mistakes. And on top of that, I’m a really forgiving person. I can’t really imagine hating my favorite group (which is SHINee). I can’t imagine any of them doing something that I couldn’t forgive them for.... let’s hope I never have to D;
There’s only one thing that’s turned me away from a band before (and this was an American band, not kpop). I was at a concert standing out back since the singer of my favorite band at the time promised he would come out and meet some fans. The other band that was playing on tour with them was walking out from the stage because they’d just finished playing. A few of their fans that had left a tad early from their set to try and see them when they went back to their bus. The band apparently didn’t like that they’d left their set early so they were really rude to their fans. They flipped them off. And to top it off, they weren’t even good live (the music was slightly off and the singer was off key). I lost any respect I had for them and was kind of upset that MY favorite band was even touring with them
03/18/12 1:50 am
...murder, sex tape scandal, racist comments… as much as I love them, I don’t want to be a fan of a group who’s not worthy of my respect.
03/18/12 1:34 am
if they’re caught swearing with racist comments
03/18/12 12:54 am
By the way I’m a Shawol
03/18/12 12:50 am
Nothing would break my love. I know it sounds obsessive and it probably is but, they have become such a huge part of me that I wouldnt be able to stop loving them. If I care that they did the scandal or not then that means i still care for them. I feel I should support them through anything because they are human being and are not perfect, they can even be stupid or frustrated sometimes as humans are wont to do, and they have enough people criticizing them. Many say Kpop is a family, and I agree, so if they are my family I should stand by them no matter wat, because when all is said and done, family is all you have left. I’m not saying that i wouldn’t be angry with them, but they would still receive my love and support once They were forgiven in my mind.
definitely a difficult question.
as for me, i think anything that they do, what you can call minor mistakes, that can be seen as very human mistakes, like saying something by mistake or doing something that can be interpreted badly, would at most make me lose respect for them.
for me to completely stop being a fan, i would have to have found something out about their overall character or morals that were a lie or fake or immoral, i.e. being racist, only doing what they do for money or while disregarding the rights and feelings of others, etc.
there are times are slim between these scenarios, but when this comes up, it depends on the situation. idols are human, but they’re under suuuuch different environments compared to others that aren’t always under spotlights.
this was a difficult question i must say.
I think that it is one thing to like them for music and another for idolizing them for who they are.
for me, i treat each of my favourite band in two section.
first section is them as human beings. their personalities and human traits. which is for many fans, the first reason why they’re in love with their groups ^^ don’t lie
hehehe.
the second section i have is them as a music group. if they make music, sex scandal doesn’t really have an effect on me when i’m judging music.
that’s my two cent :D
03/18/12 12:21 am
yeah if something bad happens you will loose respect for that artist, but music is music and good music you don’t lose respect for the dedication and work put into that song, melody or lyrics. plenty of american singers have done terrible things but their music lives on because that’s what matters at the end of the day. what they do in their spare time is theirs to worry about not for us to prod into.
03/18/12 12:21 am
I’d lose respect for any group if they committed crimes obviously XD or if they said anything racist or sexist.
03/18/12 12:18 am
Nothing. No matter what they did, I wouldn’t care. Let’s say they killed someone...ok fine, I might lose respect for them as people, but I wouldn’t stop listening to their music (that is if by some weird miracle they’d still be making music LOL they’re now hypothetically murderers). I like a group for two things- first I fall in love with their music, and then rarely comes along a group where I’ll fall in love with every member for who they are.
Pretty much it. Music is everything to me
Wow, murder just wouldn’t phase you! Just a little respect? Really?
Nothing. No matter what they did, I wouldn’t care. Let’s say they killed someone...ok fine, I might lose respect for them as people, but I wouldn’t stop listening to their music (that is if by some weird miracle they’d still be making music LOL they’re now hypothetically murderers). I like a group for two things- first I fall in love with their music, and then rarely comes along a group where I’ll fall in love with every member for who they are.
Omg that’s so true.




